From Salman Rushdie to the Cartoons - and the courage of our Danish friends

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Drastic escalation in Denmark, A turn for the worse
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First the murder plot against the Danish cartoonist
Danish police arrested three men with Muslim backgrounds suspected of conspiring to kill Kurt Westergaard, a Danish cartoonist with Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten.
In a statement on Jyllands-Posten's website, Mr Westergaard said, "Of course I fear for my life when the police intelligence service say that some people have concrete plans to kill me.

But I have turned fear into anger and resentment."


Then, the ultimatum from the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) denouncing the reprinting of a Danish cartoon of the Prophet Mohammad, warning it could lead to confrontations between Muslims and Christians. "By reprinting these cartoons we are heading toward a bigger conflict and that shows that both sides will be hostages of their radicals," OIC Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a Turk, said in Istanbul. The Jeddah-based OIC is the world's largest pan-Islamic body, with fifty-seven members.

BUT LET NO ONE FORGET THAT ISLAM IS PEACE

And today, the bombing in Copenhagen this morning followed a week of street riots over the "Prophet" cartoons

February 20, 2008

Around 11am today a bomb exploded in a solarium in Copenhagen. The suntan shop was situated just by the national football stadium in Oesterbro, a peaceful and affluent part of the Danish capital. The explosion completely destroyed the shop and the surrounding flats were also damaged. The police are putting the fact that no one was hurt down to sheer luck; two other bags were found in the area and have been destroyed. Two young men between the ages of 15 and 25 were seen running away from the crime scene; they were described as "foreign-looking" and are now wanted by the police.


The Organization of Islamic Countries Criminalities took off the mask and declared what we always knew: Submit, or we will kill you, and unleash our thugs against the Christian populations.

To the O.I.C. : the truth is out. Killing Christians or anyone else is not new for you. It is what you did best since 1400 years, your prophet of doom started this since the beginning of his carrier of attacking innocent people and chopping heads. The sword on your Prophet banner (the Saudi Arabian flag) needs no explanation, it tells the world what your history and your aim is all about. You never hid your intentions, and your threat only shows your turmoil and desperation.
 
You’re “Islam is peace” on buses placards, your “Anti defamation” U.N. bill to muzzle the truth about your death cult, and all your frenetic gesticulations about your fastest growing cult (in jails), and dominating us, it didn’t work. So now, you’re resorting to what worked best for your Prophet and throughout your history to “convince” the sons of apes and pigs with your message of peace: THE SWORD.
 
TIMES HAVE CHANGED


It worked well for you in the past. But your sword is rusted, and he who takes by the sword, is taken by the sword. Now, the word and cartoons are mightier than your sword.

If you care about your hurt feelings, we are the first to agree with you. We're not here to hurt your feelings. But let us turn the question around. Do you care about our feelings? If your answer is yes, then, take out of your "holy" book what your prophet called us, "The Sons of Apes and Pigs", for a start.
 
Let’s take another example, to see what you think of what your Prophet said for our feelings.

Sahih Muslim, Book 37: Number 6665: Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger (May peace be upon him) said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.

Is that how you respect our feelings? If someone said something like this to you, wouldn’t you consider him to be a thug? Or would you praise him with “Peace be upon him”?

CAIR mission statement reads: Its mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.

I would like to help CAIR in their mission, which is the same mission of the O.I.C., to “enhance the understanding of Islam” to Americans and western populations, with the help of the Hadith (saying) we just mentioned, from the prophet of Islam.
 
Dear Muslims, you know that If a Jew or a Christian is your rescue from Hell Fire, then they’re already doomed, and if they’re already doomed, it means their lives don’t count, if their lives doesn’t count, it’s like they don’t exist, if they don’t exist, it means they’re already dead. Then, killing them is not a crime, since according to your religion; you can’t be accused of killing an already dead person.

No one should think for a second that this interpretation is the result of the power of my analysis. I wouldn’t allow myself to interpret Islam, and be accused of being “out of context.” This is Jurisprudence, and the Islamic interpretation that every Muslim knows. It is confirmed by another very famous Hadith used in the Shari’a Law (this way you’ll know what the Shari’a Law has in store for you), Sahih Bukhari, Book 83:Volume 9, Number 5, “no Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (unclean, disbeliever)."

To any Westerner that knows nothing about Islam, never read the Koran or any Islamic books, this saying of the Islamic prophet is Islam in a nutshell for dummies. This is for enhancing your understanding of Islam. Let’s continue with the enhancement.

For encouraging dialogue(according to CAIR). Once you know that, “no Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (unclean, disbeliever)," then it would be nice to establish a healthy dialogue. Better be with the Muslim that you’ll rescue, and take his place in the Hell Fire, to discuss your funeral arrangements.
 
For protecting Muslims civil liberties. What more liberties, can they ask for, besides killing us? It's nice that they call it “civil”.

For empowering American Muslims. This you can understand by yourself, from the same Hadith, “no Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (unclean, disbeliever)." So, once we’re killed, they have all the power. It’s a no brainer.

For building coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding. This is a bit of a puzzle to me. From the above, you shouldn’t have any misunderstanding for the justice you’ll get. As for the mutual understanding, is there anything else you still don’t understand? Everything is crystal clear, as long as you always remember this, “no Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (unclean, disbeliever)," to prevent any mutual misunderstanding. The puzzle is in “building coalitions”. I can’t help you with this, it froze my brain power of analysis, since (according to the saying of their prophet) we’re doomed, and considered dead, then who would they build coalitions with? Anyone on steroids is welcome to help with his comments on this one.

My dear Muslims, you complain about your hurt feelings, do you remember our feelings when  you curse Christians and Jews seventeen times a day in your prayers, “Al Fatiha”. Is this is what you call respect for our feelings, and mutual understanding?

And why are you ashamed of a cartoon showing your prophet with a bomb in his turban? Are you denying that your prophet said, “I was victorious by terror"? That's his own admission, that he was a terrorist. Isn’t that what made you proud of him? Is there any language misunderstanding on our part for the word “terror”? Or is it that you have a problem understanding the words of your prophet? We're only reading from your books. If you don't like your books anymore, if you see they don't fit now with a civilized peaceful society, which I won't disagree with, then our advice to you is simple, just  burn them, and make yourself a new set of books, without the word “TERROR” in it. Then all your troubles will go away, and you’ll be free from mockery. Then you will wake up, and the cartoons will be a bad dream memory.
 
You consider the cartoons to be a mockery of your prophet. No, it’s your prophet that is the mockery in the cartoons.

The cartoons can make a mockery of Jesus or Moses (and it happened), but Jesus and Moses will not be the mockery in the cartoons, because there is nothing about them that would make them a mockery to themselves or their followers.
 
By brandishing your sword and threatening to bomb and kill, you’re acting exactly like the figure in the cartoon, proving, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the person in the cartoon is your prophet, and you are his faithful followers. And you are making a mockery of yourselves.
  
It is not us mocking you, it is “your prophet” that is making a mockery of you, and you’re calling him “the most honorable of all prophets”. The mockery is, you can’t deny that the cartoon is representing truthfully your prophet. Can you?
 
The mockery is, you want to kill the truth with your sword. You can kill the cartoonist, but not the (truth) cartoon, it’s engraved in the minds of people, and your sword can’t reach it.

You’re the one telling us, how proud you are of all what your prophet did and said, so why do you complain when we show him as he described himself, a terrorist? Is it the bomb that you find inaccurate? If there were bombs in the time of Mohammad, the banner of Islam (the Saudi Arabian flag) would have two bombs instead of the two swords on it. Same as, if Coca Cola and Big Mac existed in the time of Mohammad, he would’ve promised you that too in paradise.
 
THE MOCKERY IS:

When you read this hadith, “I was made victorious by terror,”  and you praise him with “Peace be upon him”.  Isn’t this a mockery, asking peace and blessing for a terrorist?

When you read about your prophet, killing the father, the brother, the husband of the newlywed young Jewish bride Safiah bent hoyay, wife of Kenanah, and raping her, the same day, while the blood of her murdered husband and family was still hot, you still praise him with “Peace be upon him.” Isn’t this a mockery, praising a killer and a rapist?

When Mohammad said, “My bread and butter is under the tip of my spear”, which is the language of a bandit and a criminal robber, living off robbing and stealing people under the threat of his spear or sword, which is equivalent today of using a gun or a bomb for extortion, you keep praising him by repeating, “peace be upon him.” Isn’t this a mockery, praising a bandit, a robber?

Your prophet was known to curse people.  Sahih Muslim, Book 32:Book 3 Number 6285: “A'isha reported that two persons visited Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and both of them talked about a thing, of which I am not aware, but that annoyed him and he invoked curse upon both of them and hurled malediction.” You still praise him saying “peace be upon him”. Isn’t this a mockery, praise him for cursing people?

Would you praise your father, or be proud of him if he said or did this?

"The prophet, peace be upon him, married Eisha when she was six year-old"

“The prophet, peace be upon him, sent his Sahaba (henchmen companion) to behead a 120 year old poet, Kaab ibn el Ashraf.”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, sent a companion to kill a woman, Asmaa bent Marwan, while she was sleeping and breast feeding her toddler, with her four babies sleeping around her.”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, I was ordered to kill all people.”

 “The prophet, peace be upon him, married his daughter in law.”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, to kill the people of the book, unless they pay the Jizyah and be humiliated.”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, said whoever change his religion (leave Islam) kill him”
 
 “The prophet, peace be upon him, said, not to take Christians and Jews as friends.”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, to slaughter the unbelievers wherever you find them.”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, told us to rape the women we abducted (the possession of the right hand).”
 
“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them'"

“The prophet, peace be upon him, taught us how to defecate, and cleansing with right hand, and cleansing with less than three stones, or cleansing with dung or bone”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, "If any Muslim wants to urinate, he should do it at the foot of a wall”

“The Prophet, peace be upon him,  prohibited us to urinate in a hole.”

This is just a small sampling of many more examples that fills a whole library
.

And you keep praising him for everything that makes you ashamed, and a mockery to the world, when we simply expose the same acts and sayings that you keep praising him for. Isn’t it a mockery to worship a “prophet” that cornered you into that difficult position of needing to spend the rest of your life defending him, and trying to justify his scandalous deeds? Isn’t it time you ask yourself, who’s making a mockery of you?  Is it us, or your prophet and your Islamic authorities holding the sword over your necks to make you swallow the lies they brainwash you with?

Can anyone in his right mind say, this is a morality or spirituality fit for a religion, or a prophet? And what would you say about the soundness of mind of any person praising the actions and teaching of such a “prophet” with, “peace be upon him”?

IS THIS IS WHAT OUR GOVERNMENTS CONSIDERS A RELIGION PROTECTED UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT?

Then, every mass murderer is entitled to claim the status of “prophet”, and his followers should be protected with the same First Amendment.

Any wonder why criminals in jails are converting in droves and making it the fastest growing religion, emulating a prophet made in their own image?

And now, they (O.I.C) took off the mask, to show the real face they never succeeded to hide. The one we knew all along.

Free people of the Western world, you still have the power to make your voice thunder, to shake these politicians, and governments. To bring to the right path (not the right path of Islam) the corrupted ones, or kick them out of office, and strengthen the ones that know the truth of the evil attacking us and wants our enslavement and humiliation.

Do you know that there is not one Islamic prayer without cursing you? And your governments  make it legal?

What they have written in their books is not the problem. Any criminal can write a book, calling to kill and humiliate people. It will never cause a problem, unless this book becomes protected by the First Amendment, and this criminal is allowed to spread the teaching of  this book, especially to millions of easy to indoctrinate young people, and tell them they’re commanded to implement what’s in that book, starting by emulating him (the) criminal that wrote it.

Western governments and politicians are protecting a book calling you “The sons of apes and pigs”. And instead of questioning that book, they made you, “The politically correct sons/daughters of apes and pigs.”

They (O.I.C.) are threatening to kill Christians, which they consider hostages in their own countries, and using them as bargaining chips if we don’t bow to their ultimatum. If we submit, that will be the death of, not only our freedom of speech, but our freedom, period. This will be effectively our total surrender, and their ultimate victory. It will be our Waterloo.

When the Arab hordes attacked the peaceful people of Egypt and the rest of the Middle East countries, they cut the tongues (please understand "cut" in the literal sens) of anyone speaking his native language instead of Arabic. The purpose was to eradicate the ethnicity and the culture of the conquered people, which they succeeded in doing to a great extent. That’s exactly what they’re trying to do now, to cut your tongue, so you would be a politically correct zombie.

You have to understand that for Muslims this is the mother of all battles. You can see that from their desperate efforts to muzzle us. For us, anything less than a total freedom of speech front of that assault, is a defeat with grave consequences. Giving an inch will be a defeat that Muslims will exploit and squeeze us like a lemon till we will have nothing left to hold on to. Their ultimatum is meant to be a major tactical showdown. They have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. They know their cult has been exposed, and its rotten smell is filling the air. Their societies are in total turmoil and desperation.
 
We have everything to lose and nothing to gain, except the status quo of protecting what we have, our freedom of speech, and democratic societies, and not to be subjugated. Their gain is our enslavement. Any compromise on our part is our defeat. There is no half victory in this. Muslims were never the kind of people with the mindset of “I win, you win, and everybody wins”. The most telling indication of their strategy is still evident when you see the number of Churches, synagogues and Hindu temples they destroyed to build on top of them their own mosques. Remember the great civilizations they destroyed wherever they set foot. In other words, their rule was, and still is, not to build next to others, but to build on what they destroy from others. They were never about, we win together, but in their false and insidious supremacist mind, their winnings, must be on the ruins of others.

Our defeat could not be caused from external attack, but from internal deceptions. We’re not only fighting the battle in front of us, but the Trojan Horses and the fifth columns within and behind us. Our defeat in defending our freedom and principles would be self-inflicted.
 
The only thing that Islam understands and respects is power. For the sake of social and civil order and the rule of law, our western governments should wake up and realize that the pressure cooker is boiling with steam that needs to be released if they don’t want to see it blowing up in their faces, and everybody's face, causing a state of chaos. For this, western governments, unanimously, should take a firm stand and put an end to the continuous Islamic extortion. Especially in light of the threat from the Islamic countries that elevated the rhetoric to the level of thugs and professional killers. But when it comes from Islam, it's no surprise.

Since the Rushdie affair, western governments have been retreating in a show of weakness and on the defensive. Giving the message to an aggressively correct Islam that we’ll be politically correct. The result was politically catastrophic, with Islam gaining momentum disproportionately with its real strength.

Then, the protests were directed largely at one person. Now they are directed at a whole country, in this case Denmark, and more than that, against all the Western society and its traditions.
 
We are in the middle of, a period in which Islam is trying to flex its muscle and subdue us into submission (it is not just Iran any more), they’re trying to establish for us the rules of conduct.
 
The tide is visibly turning against Islam, all over, with a growing climate of suspicion toward Muslims.
 
In Germany, according to a study commissioned by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung newspaper, 56 percent of Germans said they believed a "clash of cultures" already existed. 71 percent said they believed Islam to be "intolerant," some 91 per cent said they associated Islam with oppression of women. Asked if there should be a ban on the building of mosques in Germany as long as the building of churches in some Islamic states is forbidden, 56 per cent agreed. There was even considerable backing for ending Germany's constitutional right of freedom of religion with regard to Islam. Asked if strict limits should be imposed on the practice of Islam in Germany to protect the country, 40 per cent said they would support such moves. In the Netherlands, 63 per cent of respondents thought Islam was incompatible with modern European life. Even in Sweden, the purgatory of Political Correctness, opinion polls have revealed that two out of three Swedes doubt whether Islam can be combined with Swedish society. Recently, I have also for the first time seen visible cracks in the wall of censorship on public debate in Sweden. Change is in the air, all over Europe.

If western governments don’t act now and probe the teaching of Mohammad, to prevent further aggravation of the situation, the day will come when they’ll be forced to take more drastic measures, and mandatory identification of Muslims will become a potential remedy.

1400 years of Islamic history can't lie

For the benefit of all, I'm attaching the references
related to the article that Benpowell added in the comments section. And thanks to Ben for his work, and advise our readers to check his site that I will add in our links section for the excellent compilation and search of references for the Koran and Hadiths.


     “The prophet, peace be upon him, said, I was ordered to kill
all people.”    8:39 commands Muslims to "fight"]kill] pagans unil only
Allah is worshiped.
http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=
8&l=eng&nAya=
39# 8_ 39  9:29 commands Muslims to "fight"[kill]
"people of the book" until we are subjugated & pay extortion.
http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=
9&l=eng&nAya=
29# 9_ 29  Those accursed  imperatives are confirmed by
the following ahadith:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/008.sbt.h
tml#001.008.387

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/092.sbt.h
tml#009.092.388

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/014.sat.
html#014.2635

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.h
tml#004.052.196

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/053.sbt.h
tml#004.053.386
   *

     “The prophet, peace be upon him, married his daughter in
law.”
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/093.sbt.h
tml#009.093.516

http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=
33&l=eng&nAya=
37# 33_ 37   *

     “The prophet, peace be upon him, said, to kill the people of
the book, unless they pay the Jizyah and be humiliated.” Refer to the
first point above.; 9:29.
   * “The prophet, peace be upon him, said whoever change his
religion (leave Islam) kill him”
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/084.sbt.h
tml#009.084.057

   * “The prophet, peace be upon him, said, not to take Christians
and Jews as friends.”
http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=
3&l=eng&nAya=
118# 3_ 118
http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=
4&l=eng&nAya=
89# 4_ 89
http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=
5&l=eng&nAya=
51# 5_ 51
http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=
9&l=eng&nAya=
23# 9_ 23
http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=
60&l=eng&nAya=
1# 60_ 1

You can search the Qur'an at www.quranbrowser.com . There is a link to
a good hadith search engine at Crusader's Armory.

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17 Comments

dfolta said:

I wish the world would look at the TERROR and MISORY that this religion is causing, we need them to come into the 20th century, WE need the the ones who say "Islam is Peace" to stand up and STOP the ones who are highjacking thier religion. I know this is not going to happen. What are we to do? Go to www.unitedamericancommittee.org and join. Lets keep America Free from this type "peace".

Pastorius said:

Ibn Misr,
This post would be extremely helpful if there were links to the verses you cite in the following section:

“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, I was ordered to kill all people.”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, married his daughter in law.”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, to kill the people of the book, unless they pay the Jizyah and be humiliated.”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, said whoever change his religion (leave Islam) kill him”

“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, not to take Christians and Jews as friends.”

Pastorius said:

Ibn Misr,
Also, I wanted to ask, why is it you say the Al Fatiha prayer curses Christians?

I've read the prayer. I don't see the curse.

Sincerely,
Pastorius - Infidel Bloggers Alliance
www.ibloga.blogspot.com

I'd love to hear from you. My email address is

cuanasblog@yahoo.com

hal said:

Ibn, you are the only one on the entire internet that tells the truth about this evil religion that believes in the lies of murder and deceit - without you we would be lost - there is NO ONE ELSE please don't give up - everyone but you is shot full of wishful thinking - even to the point of falling into the Muslim trap of helping the Muslims to Pass Laws that will silence critcism of any mainstream religion so that we will all suffer a mandate to be Religiously Correct! This is much, much worst than Politically Correct!

hal said:

defolta, Just look at what you said up there! "wish the world would look at the TERROR and MISERY that this religion is causing" Do you know how rare and brave it is to be so RELIGIOUSLY INCORRECT so as to tell the truth about this Religion of murder? Very rare, even look at Jihad Watch, even they will not break with the world-wide spell that says "All MainStream religions are good and holy and to be against one of them is to be a very bad citizen of the world! But, that is what they want for the world so they can be immune to criticizim because of their love of the Koran words that command to murder totally innocent men women and children - no one could believe in the Koran and not be a potential murderer! You have to not believe that in whole Koran is not the real word of God in order to be free of this push towards the support of MURDER! Thank God for you Defolta, there are not many of us!

Hal:

The ONLY one? I don't get it. I've been telling the truth about Islam, too, you know. And what about Robert Spencer. Have we ALL been WASTING OUR TIME?

Ibn Misr's site is a great site. But it is NOT the ONLY site telling the truth about Islam.

hal said:

Mark Alexander, sorry, I guess I'm not as well read as I thought! However, I have never seen Jihad Watch condemn the RELIGION of the Koran as intrinsically psychotic/or evil and unfixable unless many pages are ripped out and thrown away - and, I don't remember you saying such thing - but, who am I? Anyway, the Muslims are behiend a world-wide effort to make everyone, under law, be RELIGIOUSlY CORRECT, SO THAT NO MAINSTREAM RELIGION CAN EVER BE ATTACKED NO MATTER WHAT! That is much worse than being Politically Correct. Picture a sandaled foot in the face of humanity forever. Here is what I wrote on this site not long ago, you probably missed it:
{"but it is a religion. There have existed on planet earth bad religions followed by many people. These religions were noted for their justification of various inhumane practices, such as murder, ritualistic suicides, and unfair judgments. They believed in Divinity and final judgments, angels, devils, an afterlife, a moral code (such as it was) everything! If the Muslims are not a religion or religions, then there is no such thing as a religion, unless there is really only one religion out there, and all the rest are fakes - but the adherents of any religion might say that theirs was the one and only. No, it is important to say that there is such a thing as a mainstream religion that is psychotic and evil - otherwise this horrible force in the world to make everyone RELIGIOUSLY CORRECT will grow so strong that no one will be able to criticize any 'mainstream, rich, and powerful religion just because it is a religion - and that is precisely what the Muslims want and that is what they are getting! And when they have it (oil money will buy anything at all) your mouth will be shut or in jail forever! No, we must call them what they are - definitely a very bad MURDERING "RELIGION"! Mark, I want everyone to call it a Religion and attack it as an evil and psychotic RELIGION - nothing else will work, I've tried everything - every other site has kicked me off - ibn and you are my last chance. Love, Hal oxoxoxoxoxo

hal said:

and, mark alexander, JW kicked me off more times than anybody under many names just for saying above - nothing else - the only site kicked me off more was the Big Catholic one for being "Uncharitable" (I'm a Catholic) - I have tried and tried to explain my point of alarm - always to the same result, until now. But more later

hal said:

Yes, I will pray, being a Dominican Catholic Crusader, that all Muslims will be made safe and healthy, you can count on it. And, yes, there are a million or more, at least, who would do anything to escape the trap that their religion has become for them - but they can not move or their relatives will be put in mortal danger - they wait in chains, for someone to weaken the hold that evil book of murder has on the entire world - it should be easy to do. Surely there are copies of The Real Koran still existing, but kept secret from the world. But until we can weaken the wall of Oil Money Bribes and secret treats of murder against one's own loved ones, we can not tell the ones longing to be free, from the ones who are so brain washed and robotized, that they will do anything to avoid the Muslim Hell. Lots of people did not believe Hitler's Book, but when the gun was put in their hands and the main power said "shoot the Jews", the Jews were shot, and worse. The constant threat of murder hanging over any families head would make them probably dangerous to anybody! So it is with the Muslims, this Constant Threat of Murder makes a Muslim, even the ones you think you know well, into potential murderers and protectors of actual murderers. But, perhaps you and I are not better than the average Muslim, even so, if I were a Muslim, I would warn the world against me - and certainly the younger and/or mentally unstable or impulsive members of my own family (we all have them you know). No, until that book is discredited, the world must be on guard against any person who maintains that the Koran is the true word of God and cannot be changed or modified. There is no other road to survival - but, I am not saying I am any better than they are. I am saying that there is a powerful and evil book that must be discredited for it corrupts people and it could even corrupt members of my own family - only in this spirit do I say, "Any person who professes to believe that every word of the Koran is true, is a potential murderer - even if he or she does not really, in their heart of hearts, believe that the Koran is the perfect command and word of God.

Ben said:


Dear Pastorious,

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“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, I was ordered to kill all people.” 8:39 commands Muslims to "fight"]kill] pagans unil only Allah is worshiped. http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora= 8&l=eng&nAya= 39# 8_ 39 9:29 commands Muslims to "fight"[kill] "people of the book" until we are subjugated & pay extortion. http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora= 9&l=eng&nAya= 29# 9_ 29 Those accursed imperatives are confirmed by the following ahadith: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/008.sbt.html#001.008.387 http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/092.sbt.html#009.092.388 http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/014.sat.html#014.2635 http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.196 http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/053.sbt.html#004.053.386
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“The prophet, peace be upon him, married his daughter in law.” http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/093.sbt.html#009.093.516 http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora= 33&l=eng&nAya= 37# 33_ 37
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“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, to kill the people of the book, unless they pay the Jizyah and be humiliated.” Refer to the first point above.; 9:29.
* “The prophet, peace be upon him, said whoever change his religion (leave Islam) kill him” http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/084.sbt.html#009.084.057
* “The prophet, peace be upon him, said, not to take Christians and Jews as friends.” http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora= 3&l=eng&nAya= 118# 3_ 118 http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora= 4&l=eng&nAya= 89# 4_ 89 http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora= 5&l=eng&nAya= 51# 5_ 51 http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora= 9&l=eng&nAya= 23# 9_ 23 http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora= 60&l=eng&nAya= 1# 60_ 1

You can search the Qur'an at www.quranbrowser.com . There is a link to a good hadith search engine at Crusader's Armory.

Swissy said:

hal, there are many sites exposing Islam. Have a look here, they are really kicking Islam in the butts.
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

hal said:

Dear Swissy, Everyone tells me that other sites state that what I have said they also say - but they do not, at least not that I can find - I look at every suggestion, but I have never found one that says clearly and definitively that those religions that follow the Koran, believing that every word of that book is divine and perfect, and living because it is the living word of God, and because that book is so regarded, and because that book clearly calls for the cold-blocked murder of totally innocent people, and because that book commands the murder of anyone who would try to change it, even to the point of leaving any of those religions - those mainstream and powerful religions, on a purely personal basis - that book, the Koran, and all those religions that believe in what says in totality, ARE EVIL AND PSYCHOTIC RELIGIONS AND TOTALLY UN FIXABLE UNLESS MANY MANY PAGES OF THIS EVIL BOOK, AND THOSE LAW BOOKS RELATED TO IT, ARE UTTERLY DESTROYED FOREVER - IF ANYONE TRIED TO DO THAT THEY WOULD BE MURDERED AS ACCORDING TO THE KORAN AND RELATED LAWS. Yet this needs to be said if we are to survive - if they stop trying to kill and enslave us, as they are all enslaved, the book says they should be killed and sent to Hell.
Ever since they legalized the murder of little babies in this western world, saying that would be alright because these babies do not exist outside their mothers wombs, unless they live in an incubator, people in the west do not look at murder as necessarily a bad thing - so, when it is clear that here is a Mainstream Religion that says murder can be holy and glorious, we do not complain because social conformity has sanctioned murder of babies, and is now, with the help of Oil Money Bribes,in the process of making IT ILLEGAL TO CRITICIZE AND DEFAME ANY MAIN STEAM ORGANIZED POWERFUL AND RICH RELIGION! This social drive towards RELIGIOUS CORRECTNESS (RC) characterizes our dying western civilization, and if it isn't stopped we will all soon be, at least, slaves of Allah, the God of Murder - that he is a God of Murder is 100% true and provable - so, where are all the sites that say this clearly enough to be understood? I don't find them - I checked out the ones you gave me, as always, and found nothing about the unfixable and intrinsically evil and psychotic religions of Murder most foul - why is that Swissy? And why do you keep saying that the world is just loaded with this message - I don't know, you tell us! In the meantime let me tell you that what needs to be said is never said except be a few brave posters who are sooner or later Kicked off for telling the only truth that can save our lives and freedoms from this Main stream RELIGION!!!! This Religion of Murder! Evidently Murder is not such a big thing to you - well, it is the biggest thing for me!

hal said:

I'm I crazy for thinking that you are all crazy for accepting and tolerating [even to the small degree that you do] a Main Stream Religion that clearly says that it is often a very good and holy thing to murder in cold blood - like, it is OK that this is what the Koran says and teaches because it is a main stream, powerful and Rich and Old Religion, instead of totally condemning this religion and all who claim that what this religion says is true? The Question is - "is cold-blooded murder ever acceptable? Tell me why then, that a person who thinks it is, should ever be the kind of person you turn your back on? How is it any of you can trust a believing Muslim? How?

Mohamed Shahid said:

You are an excellent guy, I really like you. Your article is very creative and can't be rejected by any muslim.

I think you are very clear about the way things are happening among muslms. As we know, muslims are liars and they will keep on lying until the World is ruled by them. OIC is playing a very big role to destroy the Western civilization. If we ever listen to muslims in Islamic countries, then we know what they want. They always talk about this, saying" the World will be dominated by muslims and it will be under their control after which peace will be established". Eighty percent of muslims don't know anything about Quran and Hadith. The main reason is they can't understand Arab. Whatever religious activity the do is done in Arabic, which they don't know. Most of the muslims are even afraid to say anything against this because it is understood that Arab will be the language for all during the judgement day.

Mohammed is a real devil.

hal said:

Why are there so few posts on this site? Is it because it is too honest and too true and that we westerners have become people who shy away from unpleasant truths and instead love useless but comforting wishful thinking? Yes, it it! Those of you have not joined the ranks of the moving dead - please go out of your way to post on this site and tell your friends about it! Whats the matter with you all? Do you want to see this site disappear? Then you can go back to the others who all are poisoned with touch of fatal wishful thinking! How about helping out in you own survival! PARTICIPATE!

hal said:

It does not matter one wit what Oboma thinks! 1.3 billion Muslims can't be wrong! Oboma is an APOSTATE and marked for death. Do not stand close to him!

hal said:

come on you guys ! If you are going to be socially responsible, then you will see that this site needs more POSTERs - just to get started - turn your friends on to this site and YOU post more please! U owe it to the human race - save them = Post for life! Post against murderers