The kafirs education in Islamic Civilization: Terrorizing Christians and destroying Churches
Know thy Muslim
The persecution of Christians and the demolishing of Churches continue in the countries of the religion of peace
In the case of this Church, the islamic authorities claim that the Church officials refused to acquire a certificate of occupancy before commencing building.
The stupid question that any mentally retarded could ask is: why the Church officials would refuse to acquire this certificate?
This is the most classic conspiracy that all islamic governments use to demolish Churches, since they are the responsible authorities that refuse the deliverance of these certificates to Churches.
That's exactly what the Church officials said, "Officials of the church have for over ten years applied for the Certificate of the Occupancy, but were not granted by the state government."
It takes at least 25 years in Egypt for Christians to obtain this certificate, that's in case all the conditions are fulfilled, and the Church construction is approved, which is extremely rare.
Examples of the conditions to be fulfilled are:
1- That the new Church site shouldn't be in a range of 100 meters (63 yards) from a mosque. [But if the miracle happens, and the Church is built, right away muslims surround it with mosques to be a constant intimidation for the Christians, and to blast the sound of their loudspeakers when they celebrate the Mass
2- The Church site shouldn't be visible from a passing train route, or a main trafficed road. For muslim passengers sensibilities, not to be offended by the site of the Church and the cross.
3- The Church site shouldn't be in the vicinity of muslim's homes, apartments, or businesses.
This is why muslims, consider you unclean. And don’t get me wrong or deceive yourselves with thoughts like,” These muslims in these countries are really retarded.” I’m not talking about muslims in what you think is a remote LaLa Land of Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, or any remote Islamic country you can think of.
The muslims I’m talking about are the ones in your neighborhood, your city, your country. They’re the same, they pray exactly the same prayers to curse you and plead with allah to bring on you all what their devoutly religious imagination can think of, 17 times a day. Remember, they came from there. They drank from the same source, and brought with them the same “very” holy books.
And while they were there, before they came and became your neighbors, did they act differently? The answer to this question is very simple; were they praying the same prayers, going to the same mosques, reading and reciting from the same “very” holy books? Now you can ask this very simple question to every muslim, and you’ll see how easy it is to find out, and be your own judge.
The other complimentary question to ask them is this: since they came from their countries, and enjoyed their full freedom of religion, which in their case, it’s more accurate to say freedom of cursing and freedom to spread their venom, did they ever protested through their multiple fifth column organizations to demand that the Christian native minorities in their countries of origins enjoy the same rights they’re enjoying in the kafirs countries? Another very easy question to ask.
It’s their brothers, sisters, mothers, and fathers that are trying “devoutly,” to finish the job. For a Mohammad’s follower, a non muslim is a job that has to be finished, with special care for Jews and Christians.
Something else you should know, they hate the Christian minorities (there is practically no Jews left in muslims dominated countries) in their countries of origins because they consider them part of the Western culture, for sharing the same religion, regardless of the fact that these Christians are the original owners of the country. In other words, they hate them, terrorize them, kill them, and consider that leaving them alive is simply offensive because they identify them with you, and they see you in them, How can their book lie when it says that you are, “Unclean.”
Nigeria: Why We Demolished Catholic Church - Kano Govt
Mansur Sani Malam
Kano
Kano State government has explained that the structures of the Christ the King Catholic Church, were demolished by the Kano State Urban Planning Development Agency (KANUPDA) because the Church officials refused to acquire Certificate of Occupancy before commencing building.
Explaining this to news men during a press briefing, managing director of KANUPDA, Dayyabu Zubairu Gano, said the temporary structure of the church at Na'ibawa in Kumbotso local government was removed, after serving them a notice four months ago, advising them to prove its legitimacy or remove it within time.
He added that at a meeting of various stakeholders on March 5, 2008, involving the issue, part of the resolution was that KANUPDA must ensure the demolishing of the structure in accordance with the provision of the law.
Dayyabu Gano explained that the agency wrote a letter on March 27, 2008 calling the attention of the owners of the church, to recall the resolutions of the meeting and the previous notice in order to make arrangement to clear their structures, or else the authority according to him, will have no alternative than to take final action.
He stated that a seven day notice was also given to the church officials, before they sent a letter on the March 31, 2008, pleading on the issue at stake afterwhich the authority of KANUPDA advised them further as appropriate. He added that the removal exercise was not carried out earlier, due to the pleading made by the church officials.
The MD said adequate information and notice was already served to the Church that it is illegal for them to erect the structures, because there is no evidence of issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy to them.
A source from the church alleged that officials of the church have for over ten years applied for the Certificate of the Occupancy, but were not granted by the state government.
These are just few examples of the love and tolerance muslims in the West congest your ears with, whenever they open their mouth to spit in your face the lies and deceptions they were programed with since they were born. These examples are not only specific to Egypt, but that's the standard used by every islamic country with a native Christian minority.
The legal foundation for the Egyptian state's control of church property is the Ottoman Hamayoni decree of 1856, which was amplified by the Interior Ministry in 1934. Notwithstanding changes of regime since the mid-19th century, the Hamayoni decree remains a valid part of Egypt's civil law. It was issued during the rule of the Ottoman Viceroy Said when Egypt was developing its civil law to provide a more modern complement to traditional Islamic law. It is based on the discriminatory tradition of the Khyber treaty and the regulations of Omar. The Hamayoni decree requires Christian congregations to submit petitions for any form of building, repair or renovation of church buildings to the head of state. Any such work depends on his approval. Great bureaucratic hurdles must be overcome to build a church or even to replace a pane of glass or repair a toilet. The church must satisfy the Ministry of Interior, on behalf of the President, that the building is not less than 100 meters from a mosque or is not in a predominately Muslim neighborhood, that local businesses and residents do not object and that there is no other place for local Christians to worship. The state uses these regulations as a weapon against the church. By means of the decree the state can and routinely does obstruct church life by refusing or delaying permission for the building and repair of churches. Militant Muslims have been known to set up makeshift mosques near the sites of planned churches or beside churches in need of repair, thereby giving the government a legal pretext for preventing construction or repair.
Permission from the President alone does not always pave the way for the erection of a new building or the repair of an existing one. Approval is also required from the local authorities and the State Security Bureau, which is empowered to judge whether work on a church building constitutes a threat to the security of the state. The State Security Bureau often works outside the law in obstructing the construction and repair of Christian churches.
The Islamic state grants fewer building permits to the Coptic Orthodox Church, which it views as a greater potential threat, than to other churches. Permission to build churches in new urban developments is normally refused, thus leaving Christians living in such areas far from a church. Successful applications typically take ten to thirty years before the necessary Presidential approval comes. In the decade between January 1981 and December 1990 the Coptic Orthodox Church received only ten permits to build new churches and 26 permits for repair work. Other Christian Churches received 44 building and repair permits during the same period. Many applications are rejected or remain unanswered. In the first half of 1991 the Coptic Orthodox Church received two permits after submitting six applications. One was for the building of an office, the other was for the repair of a toilet. Private mosques may be built and maintained without government permission.
Reported Cases:
Applications for the building of Coptic Orthodox Churches are still pending in the following locations:
1) Al-Tabaya district of Alexandria, application submitted in 1961.
2) Mamoura district of Alexandria, application submitted in 1967.
3) Ameria district of Alexandria, application submitted in 1971.
4) Al-Qosiya, application submitted in 1974.
5) Nasr near Sohag, application submitted in 1977.
Permission to repair the following Coptic Orthodox Churches has been denied:
1) St. Abadeer's, Asyout.
2) St. Peter's, Kina.
3) St. Bishoy's Abo-Teeg.
4) St. Hydra's Monastery, Aswan
The following Coptic Orthodox Churches have been closed by the government for failing to comply with building regulations:
1) St. George's, Mahomoudia near Dairut.
2) St. John's, Minya.
3) Former Greek Orthodox Church, Rass Al-Barr.
4) Church by Bishop's residence, Malawi.
5) The Coptic Orthodox Church, Khanka.
6) St. Michael's, Sohag.
7) St. George's, Awlad-Touq Sharq.
8) The Coptic Orthodox Church, Badr (demolished)
Jarja
Presidential Decree 273 of 1988 granted the St. Shenouda Coptic Orthodox Church in the town of Jarja in Sohag Province permission to repair its fence. Despite this the security police have prevented the commencement of repair work.
Alzanqur
The Coptic Orthodox congregation in Alzanqur (Jaraja District, Sohag Province) was granted permission on the basis of Presidential Decree 51 of 1988 to build the Church of St. Mary the Virgin according to its architect's plans. Despite President Mubarak permission, the State Security Bureau has prevented commencement of the building. Having submitted all the legal documents, the local bishop wrote to the head of the State Security Bureau on April 7, 1990, asking for permission to start construction. This letter and other petitions from the congregation have remained unanswered.
Mayiet Bara
The decree issued by President Mubarak on April 21, 1991 permitting the repair of a church toilet in Mayiet Bara reads as follows:
"Considering the Constitution and Law no. 15 of 1927 which regulates the religious places, the appointment of the religious leaders and the questions related to the religions allowed by the State;
Considering Royal Decree no. 30, 1928 for the licensing of the establishment of the Church of the Coptic Orthodox denomination which is Mayiet in the Qusan District of Manufiya Province; It is decreed as follows:
Article One: The Coptic Orthodox Church is licensed to renew its toilet which belongs to the Church of Mayiet Bara of the Coptic Orthodox denomination of the Qusna District of Manufiya Province.
Article Two: This decree is to be published in the official daily newspaper and is to be effective from the date of its publication.
Issued at the President's Office on 6th Shawal 1411 which is April 21, 1991."
Ibrahim Pasha and Manqateen
On Saturday, February 16, 1991 the Coptic Orthodox of Ibrahim Pasha and Manqateen gathered to consecrate a makeshift place of worship to serve the two small villages without the permission of the authorities. On the following day armed police arrived in 17 vehicles, entered the simple church during worship and brutally beat the priest and deacons, kicking them in the head and tearing their clothes. The police then systematically destroyed everything in the church, ripping up Bibles, and smashing icons. They also ransacked the annex and the living quarters of the priest. The police returned the next day and confiscated the following items: 22 doors, ten windows, 1 electric generator, 1 PA system, 2 wardrobes, 10 blankets, 4 wooden benches, and 5 gas cylinders.
The destroyed church was built after the 6,000 Coptic Orthodox worshippers of the two villages had waited 13 years for official permission to build their church. During this time they had nowhere nearby to meet for worship and Christian education. They had to travel long distances for a church wedding, baptism or burial service. None of their many applications for official permission to build a church were answered. Today the church and the living quarters of the priest stand completely destroyed. Shortly before the police attack the State Security Bureau called the Bishop of Minya, ordering him to close the new church on the grounds that Christian worship there was not only illegal, but an anti-state activity.
Al-Qasriya
The Anba Makar Coptic Orthodox Church in the village of Al-Qasriya in Sohag Province was built in 1950. At the end of 1983 one of the main wooden beams supporting the ceiling collapsed, rendering the church unsafe for use. The leaders of the congregation made arrangements for the immediate reinforcement of the ceiling. Officers of the State Security Bureau closed the church in January 1984, stating that the repair had not been authorized. After the congregation had tried repeatedly to gain authorization for the repair for over a year, the Bishop of Jaraja wrote to the Interior Minister in 1985, seeking both an explanation of the action of the security police and authorization for the reopening of the church. The Interior Minister has not yet responded to the bishop's letter and the Coptic Orthodox community of Al-Qasriya remain locked out of their church.
Bahjura
The Coptic Orthodox congregation in the village of Bahjura in the district of Naja'a Hamadi in Qena Province received Presidential Decree no. 1930 of 1974, granting permission for the building of a church. Two years later as construction was nearing its end the authorities intervened and prevented its completion. The faithful worshipped throughout the hot summers and bitterly cold winters in a church without doors and windows. From time to time the authorities vandalize parts of the surrounding yard. Repeated petitions to President Mubarak and other high ranking officials have had no positive effect.
Al-Talihat
In 1967 the Egyptian authorities responded positively to an application submitted in 1958 by the Coptic Orthodox congregation of Al-Talihat, Jihina District, Sohag Province, for permission to build a new church. Construction work began immediately. When the walls reached the height of one and a half meters the police prevented further construction work. The leaders of the 3,000 Orthodox Christians of Al-Talihat have tried energetically, but without success to get permission for resuming construction.
Alexandria
About 3,000 Coptic Orthodox live in the Al-Tabaiya district of Alexandria and the surrounding region. In 1961 they applied for permission to build a church. Though permission was not forthcoming the congregation obtained a small house where it worshipped and met for other purposes. However the upper floor of the house was dangerously weak and in need for urgent repair. The congregation received permission for the repair work, but shortly after it commenced the police intervened to prevent the completion of the job. The police successfully obstructed the repair work until the building permit expired. The priest was then intimidated into signing an undertaking that the house would not be used for worship or any other kind of religious meeting.
The members of St. Mary's Coptic Orthodox Church in the Cleopatra District of Alexandria received presidential permission to renovate their church building in 1979. However, the local authorities continue to prevent the repairs from being carried out.
Asyout
Four hundred square meters of property belonging to the First Evangelical Church of Asyout was confiscated by Muslim fundamentalists, who built there a center for the propagation of Islam, a clinic and a Qur'an school. Fearing reprisals from the militant Muslims, the authorities failed to intervene on behalf of the church. When the pastor called on the authorities to stop the unlawful confiscation he was told to be thankful that the whole of the church had not been expropriated. However the church's application of 1974 for the construction of new toilet facilities was recently approved by the Interior Ministry.
Ayad
The Coptic Orthodox congregation in Ayad in the province of Giza received presidential permission in 1973 for the building of a church. Nevertheless, the local authorities have refused to give their assent to the construction.
Beni Muhammad
Nineteen Christian residents of Beni Muhammad in Asyout Province were arrested by agents of the State Security Bureau and imprisoned in 1990 for having allegedly tried to build a church. The detainees ranged in age from 13 to 75. Two months later they were released for want of evidence.
Cairo
In 1982 militant Muslims confiscated 1080 square meters of undeveloped land in the E'an Shammas District of Cairo belonging to two Christian brothers, Muhandees and Fouad Ramzy. On this land the large El Tawhid Mosque was constructed. The owners received no compensation for their loss.
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Well, yeah, they are, even as we speak, murdering Christian (which, by the way, like Mohammad, they hate more than Jews) and they all worship a Bible which tells them to be murderers for God. So, why do our leader feed us to them in order to get Oil Money Bribes? Is it not because they subconsciously wish to be apprehended and made to pay for their crimes?/ So why don't you all say so? Don't believe me? Don't tell me that! You are scared as hell of them so you hold back telling the truth! Pitiful!
Well, yeah, they are, even as we speak, murdering Christian (which, by the way, like Mohammad, they hate more than Jews) and they all worship a Bible which tells them to be murderers for God. So, why do our leader feed us to them in order to get Oil Money Bribes? Is it not because they subconsciously wish to be apprehended and made to pay for their crimes?/ So why don't you all say so? Don't believe me? Don't tell me that! You are scared as hell of them so you hold back telling the truth! Pitiful!
Any of you guys know what the "Stockholm syndrome" is? I suggest you goggle it. I also propose that you who are reluctant to Post on the Sons of Pigs and Apes are largely afflicted with it. In short, the Stockholm syndrome is defense mechanism which operates by making a person threatened with murder fall in various degrees of love with the person who might murder them - I suggest that you all are such rare posters on this excellent site, because your subconscious fear of Muslims has manifested itself as varying degree of love for Muslim since you know more than most that their Bible, the Koran, calls for the murder of people who criticize this book of murder and revenge. I have it too! I am an Islamophobe. But I Post anyway because if someone doesn't get the truth about the fact that all Muslims who believe totally in the Koran are potential murderers, the Muslims will swamp us in our own countries to such an extent that all our cultures will die out forever and leave the whole planet a savage backwash forever - please, fight against the Stockholm Syndrome and POST NOW ! Your life depends on it - having sick love for Muslims will get you no where - they are pitiless.
Assalamaju Laikum all
Hal, Hal what are we to do with you?
Why are you disturbing the peoples who like to slumber?
They admire Islam because they have forgotten their "own" god. They know that (for example the copts)Jesus has abondoned them long ago, they have been lonely for nearly 1500 years...and no "rescue" in sight....what's the point in flogging a dead horse....they know this!
ON the flip side, they see that we make the effort ....5 times a day...and they admire us for it....no shame in admitting the love for Islam...it is like seeing a lotus opening in the dirty water that surrounds you.
See the sight, smell the perfume that is Islam...the way of life that awaits you with it's splendour,beauty, love and most importantly ....you have a god back in your miserable lonely lives as kaffur.
"See the sight, smell the perfume that is Islam...the way of life that awaits you with it's splendour,beauty, love and most importantly ....you have a god back in your miserable lonely lives as kaffur."
An historian, a philosopher, a propagandist, an apologist and now a classical poet of the finest order. Allah has indeed blessed you manifold.
What a pity, for so much da'wa, so few orifices. *spit*
Well! What can I say Naseem? You certainly are correct about many of us westerners! Everyday I see them edge closer and closer to Islam - what surprises me most is that so many progressives are willing to give up nearly all the freedoms they have fought for in deference to the beauty of Islam. They will be yours soon. I congratulate you Naseem - I sure that a significant number owe you for that. Your arguments are so good that almost no one will challenge them here on Sons of Apes and Pigs - this, even though you are a proven liar! I'm sure that you great skill as a propagandist will more than cover for that established fact!
Hal:
Forgive me for picking you up on something you wrote above but it's salient to your question.
"what surprises me most is that so many progressives are willing to give up nearly all the freedoms they have fought for..."
Substitute the word "they" for "others" and your question is becomes rhetorical.
Even better, substitute the word "I" for "they" or "others".
screw you naseems...islam is a dead cult that needs tocontrol its followers with the pain of death if left! islam is the anti Christ that will be destroyed as fortold in Christian literature.